EU’s main focus on war probe:
‘Credibility of process is key’
By Manjula Fernando
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European Union Charge
d’Affaires and Head, Political, Trade and Communications, Paul
Godfrey
Pix : Ruwan de Silva |
The European Union (EU) will to call for a foreign judicial role,
only if the Sri Lankan Government fails to appoint a credible truth
seeking and accountability mechanism to probe allegations of war crimes
and human rights abuses.
In an interview with the Sunday Observer European Union Charge
d’Affaires and Head Political, Trade and Communications, Paul Godfrey
said they supported the UN Human Rights Chief Prince Zeid Al Hussein’s
opinion that the proposed judicial mechanism should have an element of
foreign representation, but the EU’s principle focus is on the
credibility of the process.
Excerpts :
Q: I believe Sri Lanka has tendered a formal application for
GSP plus. How far is Sri Lanka from regaining the GSP?
A: Sri Lanka has already applied, on June 29. The EU will
consider the application. It is a very formal and regulated procedure,
where Sri Lanka’s compliance with international conventions will be
evaluated. This will take at least six months
Then a recommendation will be made to the European Council that make
up the 28 EU member states and the EU Parliament, for approval. This
whole process needs at least 8-10 months.
We recently granted the GSP plus concessions to the Philippines and
that process took about nine months.
I am pleased you asked that question, because there is a lot of
misinformation, circulated around that process. I want to set the record
straight. There is a clear set criteria, that the European Commission
applies across the board for countries that are interested in applying
for the GSP plus concessions.
The only basic condition is that you have to be a lower middle income
country as constituted by the World Bank. There is a well-defined band
of countries that are able to apply. This criteria signifies that the EU
puts priority on human rights and labour rights. Those who comply will
be granted concessional access to the biggest market, the biggest
economy in the world.
"I want to set the record straight. There
is a clear set criteria, that the European Commission applies
across the board for countries that are interested in applying
for the GSP plus concessions.
The only basic condition is that you have to be a lower middle
income country as constituted by the World Bank.
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These are not standards the EU had set, these are conventions each
country have themselves already signed up.
Q: But there is an accusation that the European Commission has
attached 58 conditions to renew the GSP plus trade concessions to Sri
Lanka?
A: That is not an accurate reflection of the things that are
happening. GSP trade concessions are based on a very clear set of 27
conventions which applies to all countries.
In 2010, the high representative of the EC wrote to the Sri Lankan
government conveying that she was concerned about 15 specific human
rights violations.
The details (of the conventions) are available in the EC website,
there is nothing private about it.
The Sri Lankan authorities at the time said, that they had no
interest in having discussions to address these concerns because, they
saw this as an imposition from the international community. That was
obviously their decision. Due to that the EU withdrew GSP plus.
It always makes me smile when I hear, its a violation of sovereignty
or neo-colonialism. It’s like a joining a club. If you want to be a
member then you have to abide by the rules. Nobody is forcing Sri Lanka
or any other country to apply for GSP concessions.
Q: But there are accusations that the GSP plus is a trade
concession and attaching conditions to trade is unfair. The EU is an
early proponent of Free Trade. What we are talking here are not soft
loans or grants.
A: The EU certainly is a proponent of the Free Trade
Agreement. What people need to understand is that the EU is not under
any obligation to give access to anybody outside the European Union to
its market, which is as I said is the biggest market. Bigger than the
US, China and India. If you want free access to that market, then you
need to abide by the conditions that we set down.
These conditions aren’t conditions that we have set arbitrarily.
These are commitments the countries themselves have made. All we are
doing is supporting the international system. We choose to put an
emphasis on human rights because for us, those are fundamental values.
Q: Assuming that it has been one of the conditions, how
justifiable is it to ask repealing of the PTA? There are indications -
such as the recent recovery of suicide vests and claymore mines - to
suggest that the LTTE threat is not completely over.
A: It is not one of the GSP plus conditions. The EU is
separately pushing the government to comply with its own commitments at
the UN Human Rights Council, In the resolution co-sponsored by Sri
Lanka, it has made a number of commitments and one of those is to repeal
the PTA and replace it with an alternative national security
legislature.
The EU is in discussion with the Government about, how to replace the
PTA but it is not a condition for GSP plus.
Q: There were reports to say that Prime Minister Ranil
Wickremesinghe was unaware of some of the GSP plus conditions and that
he was kept in the dark over these discussions. Your comments?
A: You will have to speak to people within the government on
that. But certainly from the discussions I’ve had with the Prime
Minister, he did not only seem to be a proponent of the GSP plus but
someone who is actively championing Sri Lanka’s engagement with GSP plus
and the need to re-engage with the international community to get these
concessions.
Clearly the government has made a decision that international
isolation is no longer a sustainable way to move forward. It is perusing
free trade and other trade agreements with a number of partners like
India and China and not just the EU.
Q: What is the impact of Brexit in the GSP plus concessions?
A: At the moment none. In the foreseeable future - the next
two to three years - UK will remain a member of the EU. As and when the
UK does exit, then it will depend on what the agreement is for the UK to
abide by certain EU trade agreements. At the moment we don’t know that,
those negotiations are yet to begin. If Sri Lanka receives the GSP plus
concessions in the foreseeable future, Sri Lanka will have access to the
UK market.
Q: The UK’s actual exit from the EU will take two to three
years?
A: The formal element is that when the UK triggers article 50
under the Treaty agreement, that initiates a process which can last up
to two years. That can be extended, subject to the agreement of member
states. This is something which had not been done before, so there is a
bit of uncertainty as to what will happen. It will be the decision of
the new Prime Minister of the UK who was sworn in as to when to trigger
Article 50.
Q: After the Brexit vote, there are voices in France, the
Netherlands and Italy demanding a similar referendum. In such a
backdrop, how viable is it for Sri Lanka to get into the GSP trade deal
and commit to a set of EU conditions?
A: Even without the UK, the EU remains the largest market in
the world. Regardless of all this, it will still be the largest export
destination for Sri Lanka. There is a clear economic value. As I said
before, we are not asking Sri Lanka to do anything that it has not
committed itself to doing. We are not imposing conditions, we are
pushing for the implementation of already set commitments. I don’t
perceive these as a kind of trade-off. We are providing an incentive to
do what the country has already committed itself to.
Q: There is a perception and an accusation by the Opposition
that the Government is too lenient towards the international community,
especially the West. Do you believe this is the case as far as the EU is
concerned ?
A: From my perspective this Government has made some important
steps, to re-engage with the wider international community. The previous
government had very limited relationships and suspected any
international link as a threat. The present government is openly working
with the international community, not only with the West but with a
number of Asian countries - China, Japan and even the countries in the
ASEAN region.
I was interested to see today that the members of the Joint
Opposition register a complaint with the International Parliamentary
Union about the the arrest of MP Namal Rajapaksa. Sometimes the
nationalist wing pick and choose which elements they choose to engage
with.
Q: Within the EU there has been action to curtail LTTE
activities and fund raising. There have been court cases to this effect,
even in the recent past. Is this going to continue in the future as
well?
A: There is a list of proscribed organisations, which had been
associated with the terrorist problem caused by the LTTE and those who
continue to be proscribed until a decision is made by the UN security
council, that they are no longer a threat.
Q: The EU and Britain as well as the US were in the forefront
demanding accountability for the alleged excesses committed in Sri Lanka
during the last stages of the war with LTTE terrorism. In the backdrop
of Sir John Chilcott’s report where he condemns the war on Iraq, is it
fair to single out Sri Lanka in the call for accountability?
A: First of all, there is no question of singling out Sri
Lanka by the EU and some of the other countries that were mentioned. The
push for international jurisdiction is across the world where there has
been suspected war crimes and human rights abuses. That happens in
Bosnia within Europe, in Sri Lanka, Cambodia Rwanda and it will happen
in Syria. There are a number of bodies which look into these things and
the UN is the overall global body. There is no question of Sri Lanka
being singled out.
The very fact that there was a formal inquiry into the situation in
Iraq, the conduct and the decisions made, is perhaps a positive sign, as
to how serious Britain is over its international obligations. Whether
there are any follow up action on that report is the decision of the
British authorities.
Q: Sri Lanka is divided on the issue of inviting international
judges to sit in the truth seeking mechanism merited by the 2015 Geneva
resolution. There is a lot of resistance to this domestically. What is
the EU’s stand on this ?
A: The EU supports High Commissioner Prince Zeid’s assessment
in the original resolution that there would be the need to involve
Commonwealth and foreign personnel in the judicial mechanism.
Our principle focus is the quality and credibility of the process,
something which can meet the needs of the various victims across the
country including the victims of LTTE atrocities and violence. They need
to have confidence in the mechanism.
For some the assurance of that credibility requires international
involvement. But we will wait to see what the government proposes, and
look at the elements of that process, so that we can extend support if
necessary.
Q: There are allegations that the government was dragging
their feet on the reconciliation process and there is lack of progress.
This perception is shared by the EU ?
A: I would say there has been impressive progress in taking
forward national reconciliation.
There are areas where we feel the government could move faster in
addressing things but transitional justice is a complicated area, we
fully understand that it’s important to get it right rather than rush
it.
If the Government meets the sort of time table that has been set out,
in having the other elements of the transitional justice architecture
identified in the coming months, I think its done a good job. |